"A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men
from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government."
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Friday, May 18, 2012

Rhetoric of the so-called “Tea Party” Freshmen Doesn't Match Their Record

If the tea party is not much more successful in primarying Republican candidates and then having those guys practice what they preach, the GOP is within a decade of going the way of the Whigs.(Erick Erickson, Red State.com)

Those words by Erick Erickson ring true with a lot of Conservatives today who are feeling more and more disenfranchised by the elites/establishment of the Republican Party.  Not sure if things keep going like they have, it will take ten years.  Don't know when I have heard so many Republicans who are fed up -- it is not the people that threaten to go 3rd every Presidential election, it is the rank and file grassroots like me. Could not have envisioned even four years ago thinking of voting for a Libertarian candidate.  It just didn't compute.  Same could be said for 2010.

Then in 2011 Mitt Romney, the liberal from Massachusetts, was shoved at the grassroots by the establishment/elites as he was the answer to all because he was a businessman who had been a Governor of a very liberal State.  They left out the part that MA was in the bottom five of states creating jobs while he was Governor or the fact that when he was a Bain Capital he was a corporate raider where Bain bought up companies, laid off employees, put them out of business and shipped the jobs overseas.

In most of the early voting states he received than 40% of the vote except in rare instances like Michigan but that didn't stop the RNC from declaring him the presumptive nominee and filing the paperwork to join forces when there were still others in the race.  Now they tout his wins as something special even though state after state is having big problems at their Conventions although Oklahoma may still be the only state where the cops were called.

We are now discovering that the Tea Party candidates may not be the most conservative.  Surprise, surprise since the major Tea Party organizations (not local) were backed by Crossroads (Rove), Koch Brothers (Americans for Prosperity (AFP)), Fox News, Freedom Works (Armey), and others.  Not exactly a whole group of conservatives.  Remember Tea Party Express gave us O'Donnell in Delaware, Miller in Alaska, and Angle in Nevada -- really bad candidates for Senate.  Miller was so bad he got beat by the write in of the incumbent in Alaska.

With this ranking coming out of Freshman Tea Party elected members of the House, we find that as soon as some of them got to DC, they started acting like the establishment with their votes.  How do we hold their feet to the fire to vote conservative for limited government?

Maybe the only way to get members to vote for limited government is to form a party for limited government because the two main political parties are not getting the job done as the deficit continues to grow and has for some time.  Obama shares a lot of the responsibility for the deficit but Republicans under President Bush are not immune as they went on a spending spree.
The Club For Growth’s Depressing Study: Failure and Lies of the Tea Party Congresscritters
Posted by Erick Erickson (Diary)
Wednesday, May 16th at 6:26AM EDT  
There have been many studies out on the “tea party congress” and just how tea party it actually is. One study last year noted that 70% of candidates who went to Congress under the tea party banner were voting just like the Republican Leaders they ran against. 
Probably one of the best places to get a sense of this is the Club for Growth. Why? The Club ignores social votes and focuses only on fiscal votes — spending issues more than anything else. The tea party candidates went to Congress not just to repeal Obamacare, but were really motivated by out of control government spending, bailouts, etc. Remember, it was Rick Santelli of CNBC on February 19, 2009, who predicted this grassroots army of activists would rise up and say enough to out of control government spending and bailouts.  
(snip)
Things sort of spiraled from there sending a wave of candidates to Washington embracing the concerns of the activists who showed up to the tea party. 
They wanted to cut spending because of out of control debt, stop Barack Obama, end Obamacare, and they were willing to primary Republicans to do it. A number of Republicans lost. In some open primaries, the candidates who were supported by the GOP out of Washington went down in flames. 
But what of the candidates who actually went to DC on a wave of tea party support. Turns out some of them were liars and a lot of them behaved like the pigs in Animal Farm with some of them deciding they were more equal than others. 
The Club for Growth’s new study of this Tea Party Congress paints a rather depressing picture. You can see how the freshman of the Tea Party Class of 2010 preformed by clicking right here. 
If you want a more in depth look at the Congress as a whole, one of the best places to go is Heritage Action for America’s comprehensive score card. What you’ll find is not much better there. 
I’m afraid if the tea party is not much more successful in primarying Republican candidates and then having those guys practice what they preach, the GOP is within a decade of going the way of the Whigs.    
Source:  Red State.org
Read More about this Freshman Vote Study by Club for Growth at the links for each Freshman Congressman and you can see how their voting average was obtained.  The Club does not use social issues but economic issues for their rankings.   Interesting breakout for the Freshman newly elected members.  Unlike the American Conservatives Union who gives their conservative award to some Congressman who not conservative, the Club for Growth covers a whole range of bills as you see when you follow the links for each Freshman Member of Congress.
Freshman Vote Study 
In the 2010 election, 87 freshmen House Republicans came to Washington pledging fealty to the Tea Party movement and the ideals of limited government and economic freedom. The mainstream media likes to say that the freshman class is the most uncompromising group of fiscal conservatives in history...but just how Tea Party are they? Did all 87 freshmen always vote to cut spending and limit the size of government, or did some of them vote like the big-spending R.I.N.Os of the past?

This study was compiled from the Club for Growth's Congressional Scorecard, which evaluates lawmakers based upon their commitment to limited government and pro-growth policies. What we found was that while some freshmen have lived up to the promises they made to the tea party movement, dozens of them are big-spenders and are no different from many of the veteran Republicans they serve with.
While the rhetoric of the freshmen may be loud, the Club for Growth strives to hold lawmakers accountable by examining how they actually voted once they got to Congress. In many cases, the rhetoric of the so-called “Tea Party” freshmen simply didn’t match their records.
Click below to see how the Freshman voted:

Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Joe Scarborough: Who is the real RINO?

Started chuckling when I read this article by Scarborough because for the most part he said what I have been thinking and saying about the word 'RINO' which is way overused.  When a conservative who might not even be a Republican doesn't agree with a Republican office holder, out comes the term RINO (Republican in Name Only).  Think Dr. Coburn, the Republican Senator from Oklahoma, who doesn't always go along to get along (understatement) which was the reason we elected him -- go to DC and shake things up like our other Senator Jim Inhofe.  So many times I have seen third party people use that term which irritates a lot of us to no end the way it is thrown around.

We thought this was an interesting challenge, but was not surprised by the outcome for Romney and Gingrich who appear to be conservative when it suits them.  Judging from the fact that Scarborough served in the House when Gingrich was the Speaker speaks volumes about his view of Gingrich not being very conservative which matches mine.  No way Romney is conservative as he flip flops his way across the landscape of the Republican Primary trying to convince voters what he said before doesn't matter as he is now conservative.  If you believe that, I have swampland for sale in Arizona right in the middle of the desert.  The outcome for Huntsman does not match many of his statements today which are listed below the article making him moderate not a conservative.
Who is the real RINO?


By JOE SCARBOROUGH | 11/28/11 2:52 PM EST 
The insult du jour for Republican candidates this election cycle is being labeled a RINO, a Republican in Name Only. Unfortunately, the insult has been so overused lately it’s been rendered meaningless. The insult is even emptier because it is so detached from actual statements, campaign promises and voting records. 
A candidate like Newt Gingrich can get away with supporting the biggest socialist scheme in American government over the past 30 years because he says nasty things about the press and calls Barack Obama a Marxist. Jon Huntsman, on the other hand, can have a stellar conservative record as Utah’s governor, be anti-abortion and adored by the NRA. But if he refuses to spit out angry screeds against Obama, he’s dismissed as a RINO, the facts be damned. 
So as a public service to POLITICO readers, I, your humble conservative servant, have put together a “Who is the Real RINO?” test. based on voting records, candidate quotes and facts! (Shocking, I know.) 
Good luck! 
2. Who bragged about being a moderate with this comment, “There is a new synthesis evolving with the classic moderate wing of the party, where as a former Rockefeller state chairman, I’ve spent most of my life”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
3. Who starred in a 2007 global warming commercial with Nancy Pelosi that was sponsored by Al Gore’s Alliance for Climate Protection?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
4. Who once famously said, “I don’t line up with the NRA”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
5. Who was paid $312,000 by ethanol interests and then said ethanol is good for national security and for the economy?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
6. Which candidate bragged about not being a Republican during the Reagan presidency and promised that if elected he would not “return to Reagan-Bush policies”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
7. Which candidate told Planned Parenthood that he supported state funding of abortion?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
8. Which candidate has consistently supported the type of individual mandates for health insurance that conservatives are trying to overturn through court challenges to Obamacare? (Trick question: Two of three are correct answers.)
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
9. Which candidate went on NBC’s “Meet the Press” and called Paul Ryan’s Medicare plan “radical” and “right-wing social engineering”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
10. Which candidate is the only GOP presidential contender to come out in full support of the Ryan plan?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
11. Which candidate bragged to CNN that he’s “the most seriously professorial politician since Woodrow Wilson”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
12. Which candidate told Planned Parenthood that he supported the “substance” of the Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
13. Which candidate said of the Medicare prescription drug plan that was the largest expansion of entitlements since the Great Society, “Every conservative member of Congress should vote for this Medicare bill. Obstructionist conservatives can always find reasons to vote no”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
14. Which candidate attacked Steve Largent, Tom Coburn and other conservatives as “the Perfectionist Caucus,” while giving his last speech as speaker in support of Dick Gephardt and Dave Obey’s colossal Omnibus Bill of 1998?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
15. Which candidate was ranked by Cato Institute in 2008 one of the most fiscally conservative governors in America?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
16. Which candidate was cited by the Pew Center for running the “best-managed” state, hailed by Forbes magazine as the “most fiscally fit” and ranked first in the country for job creation?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
17. Whose economic plan does The Wall Street Journal consider the most impressive and conservative of the Republican presidential field?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 

A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
19. Which candidate was praised in a Club for Growth report for reforming health care with “no individual mandate, no employer mandate and no provision for a massive expansion of subsidized care unlike Obamacare or Romney’s plan”?
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
20. Who are the real RINOs here? (Feel free to circle two.)
A. Mitt Romney
B. Newt Gingrich
C. Jon Huntsman 
Answers: 1) A; 2) B; 3) B; 4) A; 5) B; 6) A; 7) A; 8) A and B; 9) B; 10) C; 11) B; 12) A; 13) B; 14) B; 15) C; 16) C; 17) C; 18) C; 19) C; 20) you decide. 
A guest columnist for POLITICO, Joe Scarborough hosts “Morning Joe” on MSNBC and represented Florida’s 1st Congressional District in the House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001.

Source:  Politico
Agree with Scarborough on two of the outcomes (Romney and Gingrich) but I also do not think that in recent years that Jon Huntsman is much of a conservative.  He also flip flopped on his support of healthcare mandates:
In 2004, Huntsman promised to reform Utah's health care system. He vowed to fix a system that had left thousands of Utah residents without health insurance, even telling the incoming executive director of Utah's Department of Health that his goal was to insure everyone. During his first term, Huntsman became smitten with Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's Health Connector plan, which included a mandate.

Huntsman and his administration went on to support a 2007 United Way of Salt Lake City plan which called for a mandate. That same year, his cabinet and others pushed draft legislation that mirrored the Massachusetts model and the United Way plan and included a mandate. When the Utah legislature balked at such a mandate, it was taken off the table. Instead, in 2008, Huntsman passed a reform bill that established a health care exchange for small businesses known as the Utah Health Exchange that left uninsured individuals unaddressed. Huntsman has denied that he ever supported a mandate.


Source: Huffington Post, "Individual Mandate" , Jun 17, 2011 
Then there are these snippets about the 'moderate' Jon Huntsman:
Jon Huntsman stands apart from the other Republican presidential candidates. He’s comparatively moderate on gay rights (he supports civil unions), evolution (he believes in it) and immigration (a border fence would be an American “embarrassment.”) 
Jon Huntsman had a strong showing in tonight’s debate if you consider it from the perspective of appeal to moderate voters. If anyone from the pack of Republicans has a chance of appealing to both moderate Republicans and Democrats, it is probably Huntsman. Of course this means he has no chance to win the Republican nomination. 
Why is Jon Huntsman running to the political middle? 
GOP presidential candidate Jon Huntsman is making statements that appeal to moderate Republicans. Is this a good idea during the primary season? 
Jon Huntsman is going GOP rogue - by being moderate. 
The former Utah governor and US ambassador to China has used his Twitter feed, his appearance on ABC’s Sunday political talk show “This Week,” and a profile in Vogue magazine to take shots at the rest of the GOP presidential primary field. 
That’s nothing new for the GOP primary field. What’s unique is that he’s hitting his opponents from the political middle. 
It’s telling that the Democratic National Committee blasted out a sort of “greatest hits” e-mail of Huntsman’s ABC interview to supporters, including these nuggets:
  • The minute the Republican Party becomes the party, the anti-science party, we have a huge problem. We lose a whole lot of people, who would otherwise allow us to win the election in 2012 when we take a position that isn’t willing to embrace evolution, we take a position that basically runs counter to what” many climate scientists have argued. 
 Read More at:  CS Monitor
There you have a few examples of the 'moderate' Jon Huntsman who seems to be honest about where he stands today in his wanting to attract moderate Republicans (establishment) and Democrats disenchanted with Obama.  The question is this honesty or a ploy as is he running to the middle to set himself apart from the other candidates?  The jury is still out on that question. 

Friday, October 28, 2011

Cain Campaign Hits the Brakes so he can Rest!

Watching the Herman Cain train wreck day after day has been a little strange.  His 3-3-3 plan now for empowerment zones in the inner city is far from what you would expect out of a Republican candidate.  You have to believe that people are messing with the media polls from the pollsters to the people answering the questions.  Refuse to believe that the Republican voters would throw their votes away on someone who is so naive.  Rick Perry received $17M in donations in 49 days versus Herman Cain receiving $3M in October who is joined at the hip with the Koch Brothers and Americans for Prosperity.

Cain has made gaffes ever since the spotlight was shown on him and frankly he has failed miserably in the spotlight.  Looks like his original intent was to get in the campaign to sell his book and make money which he loves to do.  Nothing wrong with that but there is a problem when he talks down to people who are not rich that everyone can do what he did.  That is not even close to true.  With empowerment zones, he wants to bring back affirmative action of the 70's -- no thanks after living through it and watching people get promoted because of the color of the skin as the only criteria -- experience or background in the field count or background.   How much money has been wasted in urban areas over the years and now Cain wants to give them a break again?

Hermain Cain achieved what he did with a lot of hard work along with his likable personality.  Along the way he doesn't seem to have learned much about the way our Government works or the Constitution as has become evident as the days have gone by.   Now he is taking time off from the campaign trail to rest and refocus -- first it was a month for book signing and now it is to rest and refocus.  Does he have the stamina to be President?  Doesn't look like it and firmly believe when voters go in the booth in the primaries, he is not going to get the votes the polls are showing.
Cain Campaign Hits the Brakes 
Oct 27, 2011 9:26 PM EDT

After weeks of missteps, Herman Cain’s strategists are slowing the pace to give their man a chance to focus. Howard Kurtz on the downshift—and how Cain is defying political gravity.

Herman Cain has made one high-profile blunder after another since his unlikely surge to the top of the GOP presidential polls. By the normal rules of political discourse, he should be back to peddling pepperoni any day now.

Read More at The Daily Beast
The following comment from claywillis on the article sums it up Herman Cain and his run so far:
Love the Horatio Alger story. Phenominal personal narative. Super likable and accomplished.

However the litany of serious policy gaffes, not just style points, has gotten quite long. A quick reprise:

When asked how we would compete with China he responded "we will outgrow them. 999 will take GDP growth to over 10%. "

When asked a about federal deficit he indicated he could balance in a year because of growth explosion from 999.

Any one some that is aquainted with economics knows that both claims are patently absurd

Others mishaps include:

Fruit bowl defense of 999
Incoherent mish mash on Abortion policy
Electric fence malapropism
Becky Becky stan
Guantanamo Hostage exchange mishap
Bizzare X files Smoking man campaign Ad

And so on and so forth

He responds with denials, claims that he mispoke or feigned misunderstanding of the question.

The press is giving him a pass. His gaffes on economic policy show a profound lack of fundamental understanding. These have much worse implications on his judgement than manufactured outrage against Perry on Gardasil and Heartless comment regarding immigration.

He has exactly 6 people on staff in both Iowa and NH.

Over the past month Cain has demonstrated that he is not a serious candidate. Rather he has become a gigantic distraction to the important busininess of selecting a nominee - To Romney's great advantage.

In fairness he should pull the plug on this joy ride.
Romney has enjoyed the benefits of the Cain ride to the top, but that is about to change as the flip flopper is being outed daily.  Romney is the establishment candidate and has NO core values as he continues to flip flop now on Right to Work which is a core value of conservatives.  Romney feels entitled to be President as it is his turn.  This is one Republican who has had it with that entitlement mentality of the establishment.  They gave us Bob Dole and by pushing Romney so hard in 2008, we got John McCain.  Never again a lot of us vowed after 2008. The Bush 41 cartel has pushed it way too far this time with Romney.  He is not likable and arrogant as they come.  Cain's arrogance has also come out in the past few months which has been a shock.  Would never have thought that out of Herman Cain but better to see it now.  Both of them are using the 'gotcha' question to explain their gaffes.  How about saying, "I should not have said that" -- see how easy that would be instead of always blaming others for their mistakes.

As for the polling, it is pretty worthless right now.  It always has been this far out from the election.  It is slanted Democrat as always plus a lot of Republicans don't have landlines preferring cell phones.  If they have a landline, they won't answer it when pollsters call, due to caller ID.  Yet every year all these polls show a tightening near the election and then pollsters brag they got it right.  There are way too many polls and doing a national poll is ridiculous when the states vote individually.

If you watch what the campaigns are doing, then you can see what the internals are showing.  If they are adding people in states, then their poll numbers that count are showing the truth not the phony numbers of the media polling companies that over sample Democrats and Independents and under sample Republicans.  The only thing that has changed from the bad polling of the 2000 election is that it has gotten worse.  Now everything is polled.

Why are there so many debates this time and who is responsible?  It is ludicrous.  Only thing I can think of is that it showcases the squabbling within the Republican Party which is what the Democrat media wanted showcased.  Some of the questions are meant to get the candidates riled up at each other.  After the Orlando debate it came out that the questions were done on purpose as well as the camera angles to make Perry look bad.  Dishonest media shows its ugly face again with Fox News trying to throw an election to Romney and using anyone in his path as fodder.  News to Fox News -- it is not working.  Website after website has figured out what Karl Rove, Roger Ailes, and Fox News are up too this time.  You all became sloppy and left fingerprints this time.

Bet John McCain is wishing he had the information on Rove, Ailes, and Fox News in 2000 that he has today and his race might have turned out different.  McCain was hosed big time in South Carolina by that group and any suspicions he had back then had to be confirmed today with watching what they are trying to do to Rick Perry.  The question remains WHY?  Is it power or something deeper?  What are they afraid Rick Perry will find?   If you have any thoughts, please send them our way at truesoft.474@gmail.com

Tuesday, September 27, 2011

Update: Not Running According to Twitter: Is New Jersey Governor Christie a moderate -- Believes in Gun Control and Global Warming

UPDATE, 8/27/11:  All the hoopla by Fox News for Governor Christie getting in the race including getting people in NJ to say he was running this morning has hit a brick wall according to Fox News Twitter:  : Sources close to tell that NJ governor has decided, once and for all, not to run for president in #2012

What purpose did all the Christie rumors serve?  Were they done to make Romney look more moderate?  More people told Fox News they knew he was running to the stage you were trying to figure out why as the following details how slim of chance Christie would have to win the nomination.

*****

We decided to look into Chris Christie, Governor of New Jersey, to see where he stood on the issues since he is the Fox flavor of the week for President.  Conservatives got had once again -- have to hand it to Fox as they are very smooth at selling what they want their viewers to think.   You would think the conservative news sites would be up in arms about the potential for Christie who is moderate on a lot of issues entering the race but it is crickets chirping -- same crickets chirping about how Fox slanted the Orlando debate to make Republicans look bad.

This begs to question how many sites being touted as conservative are an extension of Ailes' Fox News or Rove's Crossroads?

Pretty bad when you have to go to liberal sites to find out the truth -- they are actually willing to tell it like it is.  This comes from the New Republic article, "Chris Christie, Closet Moderate?  Here are some facts:

Nate Silver has an interesting post arguing that Chris Christie managed to become a darling of the conservatives without being as conservative as they think he is. He" supported the assault weapons ban and opposed concealed carry laws." He "stated explicitly that global warming was real and manmade." He "stated [in 2008] that “being in this country without proper documentation is not a crime.” He has "“no issue with same-sex couples sharing contractual rights,” i.e., civil unions, though he does oppose abortion rights and same-sex marriage. He's soft on the "ground zero" mosque (which is actually a couple of blocks away). He declined to challenge Obamacare in court. And he actually put out an Obama-friendly ad during his 2009 gubernatorial campaign.
All this really says, Silver points out, is that Christie is about as conservative as you can get away with being when you're governor of New Jersey. This is, after all, a state so liberal that you aren't even allowed to pump your own gas, lest an attendant be put out of work. But that suggests his natural rival isn't Rick Perry; it's Mitt Romney, whose problem is kind of similar. So if your reason for wanting another candidate in the race is you don't like Romney, root for Christie to get in so he and Romney can split the moderate vote and throw the nomination to Perry. But if your reason fro wanting another candidate in the race is you don't like Perry, then you should root against Christie jumping in. Silver's analysis is somewhat more nuanced than my summary here, but that I think is where it takes you.

We decided to take this one step further and go see what Silver had to say on some of the issues:
Gun Control. New Jersey, a mostly suburban state, tends to take a moderate position on gun control, and Mr. Christie has in the past as well. In 2009, Mr. Christie’s campaign rebutted a claim by his Democratic opponent, Jon Corzine, that he stood with the N.R.A. by pointing out that Mr. Christie supported the assault weapons ban and opposed concealed carry laws. A statement on Mr. Christie’s campaign Web site in 2009 said that he supported New Jersey’s existing gun control laws, which are fairly strict.

The Environment and Global Warming. During the 2009 campaign, Mr. Christie sometimes critiqued Governor Corzine’s performance on the environment from the left, and he won the endorsement of the New Jersey Environmental Foundation, the first statewide Republican candidate to do so in 30 years. 
More recently, however, Mr. Christie withdrew New Jersey from the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a cap-and-trade program. But while so doing, he stated explicitly that global warming was real and manmade and endorsed the views of the consensus of climate scientists.
Immigration. In 2008, Mr. Christie, then a United States attorney, stated that “being in this country without proper documentation is not a crime.” The statement drew a harsh critique from CNN’s Lou Dobbs, who called for Mr. Christie’s resignation, and is a good bet to make a reappearance in one of his opponent’s campaign commercials should Mr. Christie enter the race. 
Mr. Christie has received an F from NumbersUSA, an organization that favors greater restrictions on both legal and illegal immigration.

Social Issues. Mr. Christie is an opponent of both abortion rights and same-sex marriage, but his campaign Web site in 2009 stated that he had “no issue with same-sex couples sharing contractual rights,” an apparent reference to New Jersey’s existing civil unions law. 
In 2010, Mr. Christie broke with other prominent Republicans by accusing his party of “overreacting” to the proposed construction of an Islamic mosque and cultural center near the ground zero site, although he also criticized President Obama’s position on the issue.

One noteworthy example is a video that Mr. Christie’s campaign released in the closing days of the 2009 campaign. It featured extended and positively framed clips of Mr. Obama, who was more popular then, and interspersed images of supporters of Mr. Christie and Mr. Obama, implying that Mr. Christie would be in the legacy of Mr. Obama’s mandate for “change.”

Most conservatives were opposed to Obama and his policies long before he took office in January 2009 but in October 2009 after he had been in office almost a year, Christie used this ad for his campaign.  I thought Charlie Crist and hugging Obama was bad in FL but this blows Charlie right out of the water.  This ad made my jaw drop that Christie would even consider running as a Republican.  There is no way after this ad, he would get to first base even with Romney.  Romney is a lot more conservative in many ways than Christie but yet Fox News is now pushing Christie.  In fact I was so put off by this ad that I refused to watch the last 30 seconds.  I am having a hard time believing this campaign ad came from a Republican paid for by Republican donor money.

On fiscal issues Christie is pretty conservative or we think he is -- wouldn't bet on that now either after watching this ad.

This article started out to be more about how Fox News trying to sway the Republican Presidential primary to get their candidate who will make conservatives mad and stay home then Chris Christie.  That said we are appalled at anyone who wants to get him in the race as a Republican with this type of baggage.  First his stance on a lot of issues conservatives will never agree, but his ad did it for me completely.  I could never support someone that far left.  Knew he has been praising Obama from time to time since he became Governor but this ad which I have never seen before takes the prize.  If I didn't know better, I would say it was an ad for the Democrat.

Christie being for gun control and global warming is man made are non-starters out in the south and west.  His comments on the mosque and illegal immigration will also strike a lot of people wrong.  Once this ad gets out, his chances with conservatives are nil.  He is the latest flavor of the week for Fox News and Rove so we will see where this goes.

Will conservative sites wake up on what Fox is doing or are they too deeply involved with Ailes, Fox News, and Rove?  Time will tell!