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Showing posts with label Nobel Peace Prize. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Nobel Peace Prize. Show all posts

Wednesday, October 14, 2009

Foreign meddling behind Nobel Peace Prize ignored by Obama

Why didn't Obama reject the Nobel Prize? We all know that after only 11 days on the job he did not deserve this award and the statements out of the Nobel Committee are pointing more to trying to influence American Foreign Policy by a Foreign group. Yet this Administration is all giddy that he received the award for what he plans to do. Was ignoring the human rights violations in Russia part of getting this award?

Why don't we all join hands and sing kumbyya so the rest of the world will like us seems to be mantra of this Administration. We live in dangerous times but this Administration seems to think rhetoric is the answer so everyone will like us. Who cares if they like the United States? It would be better to have the terrorists fear us.

Foreign meddling behind Nobel Peace Prize ignored by Obama
By: J.P. Freire
Associate Commentary
Editor
10/12/09 5:37 PM EDT

New York Times columnist Ross Douthat notes that President Obama missed an opportunity to reject the Nobel Prize and instead put to rout the high expectations of his office. The implications of his decision to accept it, Douthat continues, will reverberate in every policy he pursues.

"Now he’s the Nobel laureate who has to choose between escalating a counterinsurgency in Afghanistan or ceding ground to a theocratic mafia. He’s the Nobel laureate who’ll either have to authorize military strikes against Iran or construct an effective, cold-war-style deterrence system for the Middle East. He’s the Nobel laureate who’ll probably fail, like every U.S. president before him, to prod Israelis and Palestinians toward a comprehensive settlement."
Every criticism of Obama's award includes similar concerns about "how it will look now." Is it okay that a foreign committee has granted an honor that can create such a tension, or grant a sort of greater peacemaking legitimacy, as Douthat suggests? The Times editorial page takes the point a step further, asserting with confidence that the prize is a repudiation of George W. Bush's foreign policy.

It looks like the Times editorial page is endorsing the very definition of foreign meddling in domestic affairs. Foreigners validating and then rewarding certain approaches while repudiating others is not appropriate, regardless of whether it's coming from six nations or six Norwegians.
So what is the propriety of a sitting wartime president accepting an award from a foreign committee that is merely an expression of repudiation for the behavior of his predecessor? It is especially concerning because undoubtedly, Obama's partisans will use the credential to grant him greater legitimacy in foreign policy among his own people.

That's an open question. But our democratic system already provides an outlet for such a repudiation, and it is the only kind that matters because it is the will of the American people. All others should be given the Giuliani treatment: Thanks, but no thanks.

This strikes at the heart of what I posted on Friday. The purpose of the discussion of the emoluments clause was to look at the constitutionality of Obama's acceptance of the prize. Even Teddy Roosevelt made it clear there was a discomfort with the legitimating power of the Nobel committee; Roosevelt refused to accept the prize until his term was up, and even then, he jumped through hoops to work with Congress to determine the use of the prize money.
In The Heritage Guide to the Constitution, Robert Delahunty makes the point that it wasn't merely the cash or a title of nobility that had the Framers worried:

"The delegates at the Constitutional Convention specifically designed the clause as an antidote to potentially corrupting foreign practices of a kind that the Framers had observed during the period of the Confederation. ... Wary, however, of the possibility that such gestures might unduly influence American officials in their dealings with foreign states, the Framers institutionalized the practice of requiring the consent of Congress before one could accept "any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from ... [a] foreign State."

By coincidence, Federalist Paper No. 22 uses Sweden as an example of the ability of foreign powers to meddle in domestic affairs. (At various points, Sweden and Norway have shared power, with Sweden running foreign affairs while Norway ran domestic affairs.) Alexander Hamilton writes: "And in Sweden the parties were alternately bought by France and England in so barefaced and notorious a manner that it excited universal disgust in the nation, and was a principal cause that the most limited monarch in Europe, in a single day, without tumult, violence, or opposition, became one of the most absolute and uncontrolled."

No one is suggesting that Obama will start favoring American fish trading with Norway. But as Ryan Sager notes in his post, gifts tend to inspire some level of reciprocity, whether they be from an NGO or a government-appointed committee. If Obama is going to be tempted to consider peace, let it be because it is in American interests, not because he wants to hold true to Nobel's ideals.

Given that most ethics rules governing Congress are as much about avoiding the appearance of impropriety as they are about actual impropriety, one would think this would be a slam dunk, at least politically, for Obama to simply say, "No."

Update: Here's George Washington on the issue in his farewell address:

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. ...

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government.
Update 2: This from Jonathan Freedland is very smart. He looks at the domestic politics and finds, shockingly, that yes, there do seem to be perfectly valid political reasons for this award. Look:

...[O]n foreign policy there is a Norwegian consensus. It favors multilateralism, yearns for nuclear disarmament, and believes in international institutions, revering the United Nations above all. This is not sandal-wearing Scandinavian altruism but hardheaded self-interest. Norway is a small nation that sits outside the European Union. Its best shot at influence is through bodies such as the UN. Plenty in Oslo speculate that Obama’s performance in New York last month—chairing the Security Council and using that body as the vehicle for his disarmament ambitions—was what clinched it for the Nobel judges.
And then this:

Even if that is fanciful, and even if the initial response has been unfriendly, the Nobel panel might yet see fruit for their labors. They stress that the Peace Prize is not only a reward for past effort, but also performs an exhortatory function. “We felt it was right to strengthen him as much as we can,” Geir Lundestad, the secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, told Gwaldys Fouche, the Guardian’s correspondent in Oslo.

Obama himself picked up on this notion when he noted that the honor has “been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.” They may have tied his hands—making it harder for the President, as a Peace Prize laureate, to take military action against Iran or escalate in Afghanistan. They will hope, at the very least, to bind him into further action on nuclear arms and to keep faith with the UN.
In their own words, this is precisely the sort of lobbying the Framers were concerned about.

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/16/obama-wh-collects-web-users-data/

Saturday, October 10, 2009

Football time in Middle America

We are taking a break today to attend a college football game. Nice way to spend the afternoon after the insanity of the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Obama for his 11 days in office.

After learning that college professors can nominate someone, it makes us wonder if Bill Ayers, professor, friend of Obama, and radical nominated Obama. Didn't take long for Obama to accept this award for doing nothing. More of getting something for voting 'present.'

We just hope that this will not influence more troops for Afghanistan because if it does, it shows why the Norway people awarded Obama the award he didn't deserve. Allowing a foreign anti-war group to interfer in American foreign policy wouldn't shock us out of this Administration.

Off to the game and enjoying the afternoon even if it is pretty chilly for this time of year but nothing like Denver. Global warming -- not even a little in Middle America.

Friday, October 9, 2009

DNC: If you laugh at Obama’s Nobel, you side with terrorists

posted at 11:37 am on October 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Oh, and the Taliban too, which must be news to Mark Halperin, Ruth Marcus, Richard Cohen, and Ezra Klein this morning. George Bush got a lot of heat when he used the “you’re with us or against us” for the war on terror, but he specifically meant nations that had to decide whether to help us fight terrorist networks or choose to hide them or hinder justice. Politico reports that the DNC now posits that anyone ridiculing Obama is a terrorist sympathizer:

“The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize,” DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. “Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.

The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It’s no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it’s an embarrassing label to claim,” Woodhouse said.

Even in a political environment where the two major parties send out ridiculous ding-dong reactions to events, this takes the cake. Woodhouse argues (almost assuredly uncomprehendingly) for a fuehrerprinzip where the head of state must never be questioned or criticized, lest one become a traitor to the fatherhomeland. Will Woodhouse also start labeling late-night comedians like Jay Leno and Conan O’Brien terrorist sympathizers for their (very) occasional ridicule of His Reverence? Does Janet Napolitano plan to open a file on Saturday Night Live for last week’s prescient dig?

Clearly, the DNC needs a smarter class of public-relations flacks. Given this evidence, it should not be difficult at all to find them. (image courtesy HA reader Mehokie)

Update: Did Woodhouse miss a memo? Isn’t the White House about to argue that the Taliban pose no threat to us? Twitterer VJMorton reminded me that the DNC is either a few days behind, or maybe signaling that Obama will dump that rather idiotic notion. Actually, it’s probably just Woodhouse’s own idiocy at work…

Update II: Don’t tell the DNC, but the Huffington Post has apparently sided with the terrorists:
As the world responded with a mixture of surprise and amazement to the announcement of President Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel insiders revealed that the President’s “beer summit” at the White House put him over the top. …

But, according to Ms. Valle, “someone brought up the beer summit, and we all agreed that that was awesome.”

SOURCE: http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/dnc-if-you-laugh-at-obamas-nobel-you-side-with-terrorists/

NOTE: Want more of a laugh for the evening, follow the link above and read the comments -- some of them are really good!

Thought the Democrats had a few loose cannons running around at the DNC but Woodhouse takes the cake. To think the DNC is run by the Governor of VA who the VA Governor Democrat candidate Deeds keeps touting. I think Virginians have finally woken up and are going to tell the Democrat candidates to go to the back of the unemployment line. After how their Democrat Governor has handled the DNC makes one wonder how much ACORN voter fraud helped Democrats win in Virginia because it sure wasn't intelligence if this is an example from the DNC.

Senior WH Official Calls Scarborough An "A**hole" Over Nobel Reaction

9 October 2009


A "senior White House official" sent an email calling MSNBC's Joe Scarborough an "a**hole" for mocking President Obama's Nobel Peace Prize. This White House staff shows about the least amount of class ever. Can anyone imagine if the Bush White House had said anything like this to a reporter about an anchor? Just one more ridiculous thing today that showing the ineptness of the people surrounding Obama on top of the arrogance and lack of experience of Obama. Bunch of juveniles in the White House it seems.

Source:

UPDATE: That senior white house official is a Julius Streicher



NOTE: See the video of Scarborough being told by the NBC White House Correspondent that a senior White House official called him an a**hole after his reaction to the Obama announcement for his 11 days as President he received this Nobel Peace Prize which even the Taliban said he shouldn't have gotten. Latest is that the DNC is calling anyone making fun of Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize he didn't deserve, a terrorist. "DNC: Republicans Siding With Terrorists on Nobel Prize ...." Democrats sure do like to call anyone names that don't happen to agree with them.

The bottom line is that

11 days as President = the Nobel Peace Prize = JOKE!

We now find out Obama accepted the prize in a Rose Garden speech. We thought maybe he would have a hint of a guilty conscience knowing he didn't deserve it but the narcissist came through once again and was highly honored while the rest of the world is laughing. Thought it was a joke when it first came on the radio and thought the Obama acceptance was satire not real. Wrong on both counts.

How is Obama going to get around it is against the Constitution for a sitting President to accept a title or money? Never mind, Democrats don't pay attention to the Constitution.