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Showing posts with label SEAL Team Six. Show all posts
Showing posts with label SEAL Team Six. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 3, 2011

Obama took SIXTEEN HOURS to make up his mind about Bin Laden mission

Why did it take 16 hours for Obama to give the go ahead to kill Bin Laden by attacking his compound where they knew he was staying? We have also learned that the military wanted to use a stealth bomber four months ago to take out the compound but Obama vetoed that move. WHY?

We are having a real problem with the fact that four helicopters cross into Pakistani air space going at least 100 miles into the country undetected. Do we now have stealth helicopters? They have on a 40-minute firefight, only one neighbor tweets and the nearby military installation does nothing or the local cops? Then they have to evacuate people living where the helicopter went down before they blew it up and no one in Pakistan noticed?  Then the helicopters fly back across Pakistan to Kabul before flying the body to the Carl Vinson in the Arabian Sea for burial? At least that is the story the White House wants us to believe about Pakistan today.  It could change in a couple of hours which has been happening since this was first announced. 

We are not talking a civilian town but a town of 100,000 filled with military and their families and they noticed nothing? Washington Post reports:
At the time of the raid, bin Laden was at his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a military and tourist town of about 100,000 people. The compound was located in a neighborhood populated by military families one mile from the elite Pakistan Military Academy.
If Pakistan air defenses are this bad, the US has not gotten its money's worth from all the aid.  Four helicopters flying in from ? and no detection.  Here is a map from the Washington Post of the flight of Bin Laden's body:


We are told it was a 40-minute firefight but they were only on the ground for 38 minutes. Does that mean after two minutes they landed the SEAL Team? Some of the story has changed quite a bit including the comments from mouthpiece of the Obama administration at the press conference today.

Are members of the White House Press Corps going to ask the tough questions or are the British papers who have been doing the investigations going to continue to supply Americans with the facts our own media ignore?

Obama took SIXTEEN HOURS to make up his mind about Bin Laden missionBy Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 7:20 PM on 3rd May 2011

President 'slept on it' as tense military chiefs awaited decision

Action started the next morning when Obama declared 'it's a go'

Mission delayed by one day after heavy cloud cover on Saturday night

Navy seals dodged Pakistani security to reach Bin Laden's lair

Outpouring of emotion on streets down to 'the same sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11' Obama told members of Congress
Barack Obama kept military commanders hanging by declaring he would 'sleep on it' before taking 16 hours to give the go-ahead to raid Bin Laden's compound.

Hit squads of specialist Navy Seals - who were not even told who they were preparing to capture - had practised the mission at two reconstructions of the terror chiefs sprawling compound.

The mission looked set to be given the all clear last Thursday when analysts confirmed beyond doubt that Bin Laden was in busy town of Abbottabad in northern Pakistan.

But the president stunned officials when he told a national security meeting that he wanted more time to think - and disappeared out of the room.

'I'm not going to tell you what my decision is now - I'm going to go back and think about it some more,' said Obama, according to the New York Times. He then added 'I'm going to make a decision soon.'
The head of the CIA and other senior intelligence officers who were keen to proceed were left tense as they waited for the president's decision.

But the next morning after 16 hours, Obama summoned four top aides to the White House Diplomatic Room. Before they could speak, the president put his fist on the table and declared 'It's a go'.
With those three words, the greatest military operation in recent history began. Had it not been for heavy cloud cover on Saturday, troops would have been deployed then.

But they waited another day, and reached Pakistan just before midnight on Sunday evening. Obama refused to tell Pakistan about the mission in case it was leaked by jihadist sympathisers within the administration and Bin Laden took flight.

Excerpt: Read more at Daily Mail 
As the time has gone by and more and more Obama people speak out, the stories are changing at a rapid pace.  I was writing on this blog when one of the stories I was going to use changed.  This afternoon one news outlet is saying two helicopters and another outlets says four were used with one that went down with mechanical difficulty which still find hard to believe that these special helicopters were not in tip top shape to make this trip.

What will be the latest news on this in the next 24 hours?  Stay tuned as the Administration tries to get its stories straight.  Obama and his inept Administration have managed to take the spectacular news of Bin Laden being dead and have made people like us start to question their stories because they never are just straightforward as they make no sense to anyone who has been around the military.

Monday, May 2, 2011

Has Bin Laden been hiding out in the Islamabad area since 2005/2006 when this house was built?

From various reports, we have discovered that intelligence officials believed the $1 million home was custom-built to harbor a major terrorist. With all the information available to the CIA they finally were convinced it was Bin Laden right there in a fairly new compound in a military town. Some cave -- over a $1M home is pretty comfortable. Should have been a tip off when it had no phone or internet. The great news is that Bin Laden is Dead! We would bet that some of the Pakistani's knew who was living in that compound and kept the information to themselves.
Close to Islamabad, hideout was only streets away from Pakistan's SandhurstAbbottabad, a quiet military town in the Himalayan foothills, housed Osama bin Laden for many years


guardian.co.uk,

Residents of Abbottabad might be forgiven for feeling confused . When they went to bed, theirs was a tidy, bucolic little place – a town of soldiers and schools, tucked into the foothills of the Himalayas, just a two-hour drive north of Islamabad.

Soldiers patrol past the house where Osama bin Laden lived. It is only a few
streets from Pakistan's officer-training academy. Photograph: Anjum Naveed/AP
When they awoke, it had turned into something dark and notorious: the rumbled hideout of the world's most wanted man, killed in a hail of gunfire by American special forces soldiers just a few hours earlier.

The target was a house that, from the outside, appeared to differ little from the other homes in this well-to-do neighbourhood: two-and three-storey buildings, not exactly mansions, but spacious and well-appointed.

Two men stared at the square, three-storey house in a well-to-do suburb, now swarming with soldiers and police, trying hard to make sense of it all.

Excerpt: Read More at the Guardian
Is former Vice President Dick Cheney responsible for the Navy SEAL Team who took out Bin Laden in a firefight, at close range, or in between in this $1M compound in a Pakistani military town about an hour north of Islamabad.   According to liberal writers over the years he is responsible for this SEAL Team Six.  Makes no difference as Bin Laden is dead but the fact that this is the group that liberal writer Seymour Hersh and others claimed was Cheney's Personal Assassination Squad over the years makes us wonder what Hersh and others are going to write now. Probably be full of praise for Obama who promised to close GITMO, stop all interrogations and bring the prisoners to the United States.  Will they now ignore Cheney and the interrogations at GITMO who led to Bin Laden.

Seriously though, Dick Cheney has forgotten more about such operations then this group will ever know. The source of the information tracks back to 2006 long before Obama took office. This crack squad of Navy Seals are ready and waiting at anytime to go where ordered. It will be interesting to see what took place between August of 2010 and yesterday when Team Six was launched to kill Bin Laden in his residence near Islamabad, Pakistan.

Reminder: Group that Killed Bin Laden was Smeared as Dick Cheney's 'Assasination Ring'
1:19 PM, May 2, 2011 • By MARK HEMINGWAY

It's been reported that bin Laden was killed by SEAL Team Six, officially known as Naval Special Warfare Development Group or DevGru. Marc Ambinder has a good report that fills in some of the particulars:

DevGru belongs to the Joint Special Operations Command, an extraordinary and unusual collection of classified standing task forces and special-missions units. They report to the president and operate worldwide based on the legal (or extra-legal) premises of classified presidential directives. Though the general public knows about the special SEALs and their brothers in Delta Force, most JSOC missions never leak. We only hear about JSOC when something goes bad (a British aid worker is accidentally killed) or when something really big happens (a merchant marine captain is rescued at sea), and even then, the military remains especially sensitive about their existence. Several dozen JSOC operatives have died in Pakistan over the past several years. Their names are released by the Defense Department in the usual manner, but with a cover story -- generally, they were killed in training accidents in eastern Afghanistan. That’s the code.
Under Bush, JSOC was routinely smeared by the left and placed at the center of many Bush/Cheney conspiracy theories. Specifically, New Yorker reporter Seymour Hersh alleged it was Dick Cheney's personal assassination squad:

After 9/11, I haven't written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven't been called on it yet."

Hersh then went on to describe a second area of extra-legal operations: the Joint Special Operations Command. "It is a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently," he explained. "They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office. ... Congress has no oversight of it."

"It's an executive assassination ring essentially, and it's been going on and on and on," Hersh stated. "Under President Bush's authority, they've been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That's been going on, in the name of all of us."
Now that a Democratic President has employed JSOC to take out Osama bin Laden, will the fever swamps of the left continue to assert that it's just a Bush/Cheney plot to run around unjustifiably killing people?

Source: The Weekly Standard
We keep hearing remarks we assume is from the left on the Executive Orders preventing the assassination of people in other countries but in research we found the following that would back up a kill squad ordered by Obama although we think the choice of words were not very smart:

On Friday, September 14, 2001, both the House and the Senate passed joint resolutions, S.J.Res. 23 and H.J.Res. 64, authorizing the President to “use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized,
committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.”18 In addition, the “Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory uthorization
within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.”19 S. J. Res 23 was signed by the President, and became P.L. 107-40, 115 Stat. 224 (Sept. 18, 2001). This law makes no explicit reference to the ssassination ban in E.O. 12333, section 2.11. However, if the assassination ban were to be interpreted to cover U.S. responses to terrorist attacks on U.S.
soil, the breadth of the authority provided by these joint resolutions might be viewed as sufficient, insofar as U.S. responses to the events of September 11, 2001 are concerned, to encompass actions that might otherwise be prohibited under the assassination ban. Other legislation has been introduced to expressly revoke the express prohibition against
assassination in the Ford, Carter, and Reagan executive orders. See, e.g., H.R. 19 (introduced 1/3/01 and referred to House Committee on International Relations).

Source:http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RS21037.pdf
Osama Bin Laden got what he deserved and let this be a lesson to others that sooner or later America will take out its enemies who have attacked America. 

Thank you President Bush and Vice President Cheney for insisting that the terrorist prisoners be interrogated at GITMO which led to the information used for the killing of Osama Bin Laden.  Thanks also to CNN for not blowing the lid on the information when they had it in their possession last year.  All we can say about the President is that it was a good thing he didn't keep the promise to close GITMO and allowed the CIA and military to do their job.  Now would be a good time to stop some of the spinning on this coming out of the White House.  All we need are the facts not spin.